Just looking for more help from other people that have already been there and done that. Reloading 577450 paper patched martinihenry round youtube. Give these a try, and youll never buy anything else. Jun 01, 2017 starline brass fire formed in a grease groove rolling block chamber cleaned, size checked, primed. It takes some time and effort to get it figured out for a specific rifle, but the results are exemplary. Merchandise books paper patched bullets by orville c. In case you didnt know paper patched bullets allow you to shoot lead projectiles close to the speed of a jacketed bullet. Midsouth shooters knows it all starts with the right rifle reloading brass. Loading paper patched bullets montana bullet works. His delightfully informative book on the subject, the paper jacket, is perhaps the best resource for a reloader interested in utilizing paper patched bullets with smokeless powder. Aug 09, 2017 match your rifles twist rate to the appropriate bullet weight. Starline brass fire formed in a grease groove rolling block chamber cleaned, size checked, primed. Theres special molds made to produce boolits that are undersize per caliber, and smooth sided, no grease grooves.
Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load data. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. Grease groove bullets have been the most accurate type so far. The lubedecap i do not mind, but it is the trimming, measuring, pocket reaming, etc. I melt bees wax and add olive oil until its just about as soft as bar soap when cool. This last pic is of a 100yd five shot group from a 224 cal rifle. Or, print your order after entering your address, attach your check or money order, and send it by mail. All these powders are appropriate in the listed loads.
Would be of interest to research this,not only would make it easier but teflon tape is verry slippery. Beginning to load for the ar15 223 remington top rated. Youll only need enough lube to cover the paper patch. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a paper patch to obtain top velocities with poured slugs. With a slightly tongueincheek writing style, i demystify the paper patching enigma with a simple, stepbystep approach to reloading using offtheself components for shooting todays. Rs5 press reloader special5 press case slick spray lube uniflow powder measure stainless steel dial caliper primer pocket swager bench. I just read about paper patched cast bullets in handloader mag i was wondering if any of you,use them. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs. The lee 170 grain gas check bullet seems to work pretty well when patched. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on. They not only have an outstanding selection of rifle and handgun reloading supplies, they also have complete cartridges for many purposes.
This video will show the basic 2 wrap patch boolit. If youre a diehard paper patched bullet shooter, youre undoubtedly familiar with paul matthews. Next, after resizing, be sure to remove all the case lube from both the outside of the brass and the inside of the gage, as this can give a false reading. If youre looking for doitall bullet that can shoot bugholes on paper and also. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. However the system functions, the ability to utilize the mechanical advantage of a sturdy reloading press is a definite plus over the lyman 450 lubersizer or similar. As velocity increased and rifling was introduced a problem of lead remaining in the bore was of concern. Paperpatched bullets were merely the forerunners of modern jacketed bullets. As with any black powder load, you will probably have to experiment.
Mar 06, 2014 reloading 577450 paper patched martinihenry round duration. I blew most of my money on that and a rcbs rock chucker kit, so im in for a pickle when it comes to actually reloading the 577450. Let me first say that having fired several thousand cbs in a mini14s, ars and other semiauto rifles, i have never experienced any leading. The hodgdon reloading data center rdc lists 21 different powder types that can be used in the. I paper patched some of the buffalo arms mold bullets and it seemed to shoot better but then i lost the damn target and didnt get to check it against the other stuff. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Not only can you save a good bit of money reloading your own ammunition, but you can load better quality ammunition handcrafted to your specific rifle and your application. He even goes into the paper patched bullets which are not hard to. Premium 223 remington unprimed rifle brass 100 count. Paper patching and forensic ballistics cast boolits.
Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. See our blog for up to date gun rights reports and tell us what you think we describe another method to economically and. Another 20 rounds were loaded the same with the lone exception, the bullets were not lubed, but wrapped or patched with teflon tape. A beginners guide to loading and shooting paper patched bullets for early black powder cartridge rifles. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. In addition to coming to this conclusion about prepatched bullet diameter, i also investigated the factors of bullet hardness, patch type and powder choice, hoping to further refine smokeless powder paperpatched loads. A selection of historic, british military ammunition. Now that you have perfectly sized brass, get a boolit paper combo that will provide boolits that will press snugly into the fireformed cases.
If these are just plinking rounds you need to get ahold of doug on here he posts in reloading classifieds all the time. How in the world would one go about preparing such ammunition today. Personally, i use the thickest paper i have available and purchase 100% bond paper by the sheet from a local stationer. This for you old or ancient guys paper patched bullets gun. This for you old or ancient guys paper patched bullets. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet.
The use of paper patched bullets is especially known from the buffalo hunts on the american prairies where millions of the shaggy beasts fell for paper patched bullets. And if a person was into salvaging range lead, a lot of those fmjs could be reloaded with other rifling marks already. Please post what you find,it sounds interesting and would like to know how fast you can push them and of corse accuracy being the main consern also. Enter your name, address, and billing information for prompt shipment. Sierra is one of the top manufacturers in the ammo industry. The book is intended for shooters experienced in reloading black powder cartridge rifles that are ready to try their hand at shooting paper patched bullets. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. Two loads were originally produced for the cartridge. Eduard rubin for rifles based on rudolf schmidts action design. Heavier bullets wont stabilize in barrels with slow twist rates.
Function and accuracy are the trademark qualities of rcbs products. Although i couldnt go far at once, it was good therapy to hobble back and forth between the target butts and the shooting bench. We do not guarantee that all brass cases we sell for reloading have only been fired once. We are all fully familiar with just what a useful cartridge the. Our brass is tested to be at least 98% on caliber per container. Reload with 223 remington rifle brass at midsouth shooters. You can purchase this by the sheet at most stationers or office supply stores not the discount places. I had loaded up 40 rounds with the lyman 225462, sized to. The art of paper patching, how to make your paper patched boolits. If it slips in with a slight resistance, its the right size. One of the earlier attempts, which is still popular today with muzzle loaders and users of black. No matter what youre looking for or where you are in the world, our global marketplace of sellers can help you find unique and affordable options.
What is the best recipe you have found for handloading. Ive shot chase patches in my muzzle loaders and my 4050 ballard. That was the only thing we had locally for rifle loads for ars. Shooting a paperpatched bullet in your inline muzzleloader, using blackhorn 209 powder behind it, opens up a whole new way to shoot your rifle. Also, pair your bullet choice to the task at hand, whether it be varmint or biggame hunting, target shooting or longrange shooting. Its funny there is only 1 view on this post, since ive only seen a handful of references for paper patched bullets in this cartridge, but i guess there probably isnt that much interest in this old reloading art so oh well. Chase patches have been more accurate than wrapped paper patched bullets for me. Paper patched jacketed bullets in use with a very low powder load, a reason for the terrible accuracy, a proper load for cast bullets should have been used, even low loads for jacketed bullets can be used research loads carefully on this issue.
By paper patching this paper jacket would seem to isolate the bullet from the. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it. What are some important things to know when reloading the. Check out our current selection of 223 remington rifle brass below. I generally, but not always, use a folded tail which forms a paper gas check under the bullet. This series will dive into some keep facts in getting a paper patch boolit to shoot. I suggest that you start with thick paper, cotton type typing paper. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. I also did it about 15yrs ago with a 1895 that had the microgroove rifling.
Reloading paper patched bullets the anser to this inquiry came from the pastas they often do. Since it many not be 100%, we fill each package to 102% of the weight sold. Choose the 223 remington rifle brass thats right for you. At the end of it all, i ended up firing about 4000 individual slugs for these tests and learned some good dope on patched slugs. Paper patch boolits offer great advantages for us casters. In the final chapter, he gives a quick summary of what works best for him with what he calls a practical paper. Whether you have a sharps, rollingblock, or a hawkin, all can be loaded using the paper patch method. Paper patched bullets should be able to be fired at the same speed as a metal jacketed bullet of the same weight. Once fired brass is an industry term that describes used brass cases. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. With a slightly tongueincheek writing style, i demystify the paper patching enigma with a simple, stepbystep approach to re loading using offtheself components for shooting todays. Thanks jeff also, it was interesting to see how you can use a smaller dia. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets.
Anyway, i never had a problem and was quite surprised at the accuracy. A trip to the range and some testing gives an option to those fearful of lead fouling in ar platform rifles. With the goal of preventing contact between alloy and bore wall and, perhaps, a reduction in metal cost, i. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Get everything you need to make your favorite ar loads. There is one fellow who shoots yds with his black powser 45 cal rifle and puts them all in the the black. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. On youtube that guy from moss pawn shop iv8888 or what ever his name is has a pretty good series of videos on these rifles and handloading for them. Better accuracy and higher velocities are achievable.
Beginning to load for the ar15 223 remington if you enjoy shooting an ar15 like many of us do, reloading for the ar15 rifle is definitely worth looking into. Now you can do it for very cheap, like me, but it will take time. These patches do a great job, dont disintegrate in solvent, leave minimal lint behind, and are very affordable. The ammunition used by the schmidtrubin model 1889 rifle was one of the first to use 7. The art of paper patching, 3006 series introduction youtube. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Loomer, on the methods and successes in developing a paper patch bullet and load. Best powders for loading 223 in rifle calibers dillon. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques. A how to book on duplicating the loads used by the buffalo runners in the 1870s. We have patched and sized a number of lube groove bullets with varying results. I never paper patched i just cast and lube and it works well for me.
Dont know if this will help but i just finish firing off my first reloads of. Shooting a paper patched bullet in your inline muzzleloader, using blackhorn 209 powder behind it, opens up a whole new way to shoot your rifle. Test loads note the waterproofed patches on bullets at left. Right click on the image of the load data and use save as. Never tried breech seating chase patches in the ballard because the throat is not tapered.
The guy was right, you can size those paper patched bullets down. Patching with teflon tape was reading an article about paper patched bullets when i stumbled on an article about useing teflon tape instead. In my opinion, paper patched bullets was a kind of fashion in the early black powder cartridge era, and they were not necessarily better compared to grease grooved bullets. Long considered the bible of paper patching this book will take you step by step with a great deal of additional information. You might be able to get a specialty mold maker do a pp mold for 44 mag, youd be able to tell them what nose type you want. This rcbs ar tactical reloading kit is an exclusive to natchez shooters supplies. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. If you are going to paper patch or simply want to learn more about it then this is the book for you. If youre shooting a bolt gun, neck sizing ammunition can help wring more accuracy from your gun. Reloading 577450 paper patched martinihenry round duration. Reloading 577450 rounds for my 1887 martinihenry, using 480grn lead bullet. Etsy is the home to thousands of handmade, vintage, and oneofakind products and gifts related to your search.